Golden Lore OOC - New Beginning (Open)

[Easy]

You can ask almost everybody here and they'll tell you I love workshopping characters and working with you guys.

I can affirm that that's... historically been the case. Undead characters have never been allowed in Golden Lore, though. Neither have any character abilities that can negate, copy, or generally otherwise screw with other power abilities, or which are just unreasonably overpowered. (Dunno if I can recall seeing the last one have to come up as an issue, though.)

Wait.

Hold on.

Wouldn't that also preclude a Dullaha

I'm not gonna put forth the effort to write up another character that you're just gonna reject. Count me out of this.

I'm actually kinda with you on this one. Well, not the giving-up part of it, but the 'not really understanding that second rejection' bit (apart from "does black magic" seeming like too general and vague of a power ability).

I'm pretty sure none of us would have had any problem playing a game with that second character in it, Req.(?) Even though it basically struck me as evil Dunsparce but in ogroid form, we're perfectly well equipped to kill him off if he ends up being a pain to deal with. =]

 

[Requiem]

Wouldn't that also preclude a Dullaha

Eh, Coolpool's character is fine in that while it's a Dullahan and a long-lived one at that (I was gonna say no because I'm not too psyched for an immortal character/ancient, but in the grand scheme of things, any elf could be long-lived like that with the right explanation, so eh, age isn't so much an issue so long as they can die like anyone else), she's more or less assimilated into society and, as far as I can see, has been written to not follow the myth of the Dullahan to an exact degree.

The undead paladin character still isn't denied. It can still be workshopped. It's not a bad character at all, I'd accept it if this were a different setting. It just needs to be tweaked to fit into GL.

The troll character was denied because it was a joke character, Dunsparce suggested he'd made it "the villain of the game," and that his goal with it was to cause trouble in the game. That's why I denied it.

 

[Easy]

Oh, was it actually a joke? Taken at face value, I didn't see anything particularly wrong with the idea. It'd take some outstanding RP work to make it any higher than upper minion-level villain of a game with Fortune, Kanin, and Diarmuid in it, but that's more his problem to worry about, no?

 

[Requiem]

As GM, I'd be dealing with it in some fashion.

The idea of a Troll having trouble in high school and not managing to fit in well with society at large or his peer group to be more particular isn't a bad idea at all. The black magic is very cool and we've had characters with fire powers which I also enjoy just fine. The core concept of the character wasn't bad, but I'm not going to accept a player's character if they announce that their intention is to mess with the game instead of just playing like normal. Would that problem be one that we couldn't handle as a group? Sure, but just because that's the case doesn't mean I need to or even should accept the character, especially since, again, his first character still hasn't been denied.

I'm not going to accept a character when the player of that character intends to negatively impact others' experiences with the game.

 

[Dunsparce]

You said in no uncertain terms that being undead is completely unfeasible in Golden Lore, so I don't know why you keep saying 'you could just tweak it a little and it'll work.' I'm also completely over that character now because I though of a new character that I think would be way more fun to play. You say you deny my new character because he would cause trouble in the game, but I don't get that either. Who ever heard of a story having a conflict? We can't have that. When I said I was gonna try to ruin the game, that was a little joke. When I said I wanted to be the villain, though, that was the truth, and I don't really see how that's a problem.

I still want to play this game, but like I said, I won't be making another character. If you'll have me, I think my troll could still use some work, since his powers are weak and ill-defined.

 

[Requiem]

There was a miscommunication that was entirely my fault in regards to your undead character and I admit that. I tried to clear things up with the post I quoted, but as we can tell, things are what they are and you, unfortunately, don't intend to play that character/workshop it, so this is how things are now.

As for your troll, I can tell you now he wouldn't be the villain. However, Easy is making a criminal and his alignment is essentially evil, so it's not an impossible notion for your character to be evil as well, so feel free to keep that in with the understanding that you wouldn't be the main antagonist. However, I feel the need to remind you that if you do things that would make the other characters in the game want to attack and/or kill your character (and that includes my NPCs and other player characters), then they more than likely will. Again, play whatever you wanna play, just know that the logical reactions to your character's actions will occur.

You say you deny my new character because he would cause trouble in the game, but I don't get that either. Who ever heard of a story having a conflict? We can't have that.

I said I denied him on the basis that you as the player intended to cause trouble, not the character. It's one thing to play a villain character with the intent of properly RPing that character and another to play a villain with the intent to make other players' experiences worse. Since the latter isn't your intention and was a joke, I can give the character a more thorough look and, again, we can work on it together to better detail things out and get it accepted.

 

[Tirin]

I think it's less that your character would cause trouble in the game and more that Req is worried about the implications of you saying "let's fuck shit up". I'm not sure you being the villain necessarily works either, as I would assume that Req has a villain of his own that he would like to have involved; that said, you could probably try (and possibly even succeed in) fucking us over and betraying us, and if that's what you wanna do and it suits Req's broader plans for the game I don't see why not. We'll take a massive fuckin' vengeance shit on you afterwards though.

 

[Requiem]

@ the people who posted older character sheets, I encourage you to look them over and see what you can improve about them/change/inquire about in terms of workshopping. I mostly say this because it's been two years and maybe there are some things about your character you might not remember or might wanna change or edit slightly.

Get reacquainted with your character and give their sheets some attention, you might find it'll improve them to be more your liking.

 

[Tirin]

I read over Kanin's sheet and I'm pretty satisfied with it. The idea of a man who was an out-and-out awful batshit psycho halfway reforming is one I enjoy and want to play, and for reasons most of us are familiar with it's one I didn't get to do very thoroughly in Golden Lore.

 

[Requiem]

That's fine my dude, I figured you'd read it over again anyway. I mostly say it because Easy re-read his sheet and we've been workshopping his character and he likes this version of Fortune more than the one he had before. Of course, that came from me poking and prodding him, but we're both pretty pleased with the end result nonetheless.

 

[Easy]

Fortune 2.0 is confirmed top legit, and coming soon to a GL reopening near you! However, I've spent a disgusting number of critically important hours today on either fleshing out the ideas that popped into my head on that matter, or writing about the hypothetical combat matchups between Goku, Superman, and Saitama. I have to get back to actual work now, and not get sidetracked anymore until late this Wednesday at the very soonest.

@Dunsparce You should PM-spam Req about your character ideas on Discord. He likes that.

 

[Requiem]

He likes that.

It makes me feel wanted.

 

[Dunsparce]

Alright. Looks like we're perfectly squared now and you're okay with my character. I'll work on him a bit more, and I guess I'll contact Req later either on Discord or with a forum PM to get help "workshopping" it. Let me clarify a few things, though:

I'm actually intentionally writing him so that he could get killed off. I'm not 100% sure I'm gonna want to play this forever, so I'd like the freedom to have him die and not leave you guys hanging. Also, I'm not deadset on him being a villain. He could end up being more of an anti-hero. What's important is that he opposes the one world government, and he's gonna try to overthrow it.

 

[Requiem]

What's important is that he opposes the one world government, and he's gonna try to overthrow it.

That's a neat concept and I look forward to you playing it.

Also, just to say it, you don't need to plan for your character to die, they can always just be written off, still living, just out of the game.

 

[Easy]

Wait.

Hold on.

What about the roads?

EDIT: Also, @Requiem: Out of curiosity (mostly) and in case anyone else might get some use out of knowing, (partly), what sorts of reasons are there that the various green areas on the map are considered uninhabitable, and/or haven't been explored? (Assuming that's not something that's completely unknown to the public, that is.)

Obviously the map suggests they'd be incredibly cold, but there are more extreme latitudes (at higher altitudes) that have totally been settled and populated. And modern tech allows explorers to get really, really far into inhospitable environments quite reliably nowadays, without necessarily requiring them to be absolute madmen, and also without even having any magic to use at all.

So... is it rough seas and weather just making them really hard to access? Or maybe the government hasn't seen fit to make it a priority all this time, what with being busy conquering all the nicer, more desirable parts of the world instead? Something else I'm missing entirely? I'm curious now and it's stuck in my head, dammit.

 

[Pony Slaystation]

Wait up for me. Working on my character sheet today, but I'm excited, here's a sneak peek: Orc M'gork is a washed-up VHS fitness icon trying to break onto the stand-up comedy scene to earn the respect of his college-aged kids, Mork and Lork M'gork. His powers are blood, sweat, and tears (but not necessarily in that order and definitely not all at once).

 

[Requiem]

I am absolutely tickled by that.

I'm assuming that means some sort of blood magic?

 

[Requiem]

Wait.

Hold on.

What about the roads?

EDIT: Also, @Requiem: Out of curiosity (mostly) and in case anyone else might get some use out of knowing, (partly), what sorts of reasons are there that the various green areas on the map are considered uninhabitable, and/or haven't been explored? (Assuming that's not something that's completely unknown to the public, that is.)

Obviously the map suggests they'd be incredibly cold, but there are more extreme latitudes (at higher altitudes) that have totally been settled and populated. And modern tech allows explorers to get really, really far into inhospitable environments quite reliably nowadays, without necessarily requiring them to be absolute madmen, and also without even having any magic to use at all.

So... is it rough seas and weather just making them really hard to access? Or maybe the government hasn't seen fit to make it a priority all this time, what with being busy conquering all the nicer, more desirable parts of the world instead? Something else I'm missing entirely? I'm curious now and it's stuck in my head, dammit.

Honestly, I haven't thought about that just yet. A lot of the world lacks structure because it was unimportant to the main plot/the main continent where I've planned for most of the game to happen, but you're all more than welcome to spit ball with me on what those land masses might be for, what they look like, who lives there, etc.

My idea is that some of them are pure plague lands and prison islands. Australia but a thousand times worse, haha. Other ideas I had were to do stuff like tribes of magic users who have a sort of primal grasp of magic that the modern world isn't prepared for, which keeps the tribe safe from any outside influence, like that tribe IRL that lives in the jungle of... South America, I wanna say? They kill anyone who isn't part of the tribe and they're good at it, so no one really tries to explore what they're about.

Those are just cursory ideas though, if anyone has anything they wanna suggest, hit me with it. Also remember that magic can make things be however we want them to be, so it's not too impossible for a jungle to exist in those land masses if we want them to, same for any other climate or set up.

 

[Pony Slaystation]

Oh, yeah. It was a huge scandal that just about ended him, and it's the reason his kids won't talk to him to this day. Twenty, thirty years ago, Orc M'gork was a household name. He was the Tony Horton of Riordan. But you've gotta imagine the kind of pressure that was on the guy to keep innovating, to keep releasing programs, and not just ones that would work for an orcish physiology. Our man had some dark years. Some tapes leaked and it got out that Orc was using illegal blood magicks to induce berserker states before competitions and recordings (his pump was suspiciously supernatural near the end—but they marketed the shit out of it and made a killing off these kettle bells that were also shake mixers).

Orc M'gork is his stage name, of course. A relic from a simpler time not long past—it's actually pretty racist and horribly self-deprecating.

EDIT: His kids are actually Mork and Lork M'gork, though. Celebrity is weird. See: Blanket, Blue Ivy, but don't you dare bring North and Saint into this.

 

[Requiem]

Holy shit