Welp, this is unfortunate. When the game had gotten into page 4 I was feeling pretty confident that I was in the clear and I could start focusing more confidently on scum hunting, but now I see that apparently refusing to believe in Firedemon's innocence after he made a post has triggered a second, fatal wave of mistrust. The best I can do right now is more thoroughly explain my reasoning in the hopes that it can be useful to the town.
FoS Firedemon + FoS Shizno + FoS Anatronman
Earlier in this day phase, I theorized that Firedemon, Shizno, and Anatronman were all scum buddies. As such, almost every accusatory I've made since my initial Shizno lynch on page 3 has been either directly against Firedemon/Shizno or more subtly against Anatronman (e.g. my post mentioning how I don't like the Danny and Andy lynches being suggested by Firedemon and Anatronman). When the Shizno lynch didn't pick up any momentum, I was really hoping to see Firedemon die as his flip would help me confirm/deny some of my suspicions here (and again, his wall post did nothing to convince me he was clean; a mafia member could have easily made the same points). Because it looks like I will be dying in place of one of these three suspects today, I feel that the best thing for me to do now is to prematurely convey the specifics of my case linking them together so that the town can at least consider it in the days to come (as this linking case isn't the strongest, I'd have preferred to keep it closer to my chest until more concrete evidence, such as Firedemon dying and flipping scum, presented itself).
#1 The Case Against Firedemon:
A mix of gut, your wall not doing anything to lift my suspicions, and your suggesting of an Andy lynch. I understand that lurking is not a necessarily scum play of yours but, even if it was, your mere return to post-making is not quite enough to clear you.
My posts of the last page are the core of my case against Firedemon. Basically, I thought he was a pretty ok lynch before he made his post and his post didn't convince me he was town. This is admittedly the weakest of my scum arguments, but, most importantly,
I still valued him as a kill because I saw connections between him, Shizno, and Anatronman. Thus, I mainly wanted to see Firedemon die because, if he did flip scum, I would have more reason to suspect Shizno and Anatronman.
#2 The Case Against Shizno:
Anyways, thanks for the incredibly flip floppy "don't wanna kill Walrus but maybe we should kill Walrus" post. Definitely not scummy at all.
The case against Shizno started because I did not like the way Shizno was passively going with the flow and not making any novel pro-town moves of his own. Shizno has continued to emit this behavior, making yet another post where Shizno doesn't really know what to do and suggests maybe killing Walrus but maybe not killing Walrus.
And with Firedemon back and speaking again he does bring up some good points. And... admittedly, I'm kind've at a loss as to what to do...
Unlynch Firedemon
I guess Walrus would work as a lynch, but I'm not convinced that he'd be this far on my dick if he was mafia.
Shizno is linked to Firedemon through his earlier Day 1 behavior where Shizno semi-defended Firedemon by trying to propagate a Danny lynch instead (page 4).
Why Firedemon and not Danny? From what I can tel they've been about the same amount of active.
Eventually, after the page 5 Andy+Danny roleclaims and the building confirmed town steam against Firedemon,
Shizno reluctantly threw their scum buddy under the bus and joined the Firedemon bandwagon because blindly following the confirmed town seemed like the towny thing to do. (my interpretation). Then, when Andy ended his pursuit against Firedemon on page 7, Shizno was quick to unlynch Firedemon, say they didn't know what to do, and blindly wait for Andyman's next suggestion.
@AndyM03, if we can't agree that Shizno is scum, I hope that we can at least agree that Shizno's been loyally following your every move since the roleclaim, and it would be nice if Shizno did more than that.
#3: The Case Against Anatronman
Anatronman has given me some bad vibes with his aggressive all over the place behavior (then again, Anatronman's aggressive behavior always gives me bad vibes in games of Mafia), and I didn't like his Danny lynch. The case against Anatronman is one that has been backed up by Dunspare and Easy on page 6.
Unlynch Danny
Lynching Danny isn't going to clear Andy and Cyonica; I'd actually put more stock in them being scum again (not gonna make the gambler's fallacy). If you want to confirm all this, I'd say we should lynch one of them. But I don't think that, and I think the scummiest thing you can do right now is try to get one of the four *confirmed* townies lynched. On that basis, I think we should Lynch Anatronman.
The funny thing is, I actually kinda wanted to do that [Lynch Anatronman] myself. It's Anatron, though. I no longer trust even my own instincts on that matter.
My more unique perspective on Anatronman's guilt is that
he has consistently been taking actions that put lynch pressure against anyone that isn't Firedemon. His first post after Andy proposed the Firedemon bandwagon and all the roleclaims happened
Well if the argument is that Dach, Cyon, Andy, and possibly Danny are confirmed, that immediately makes Easy and Dunsparce my top two and FoS Walrus for trying to lead a bandwagon while there are confirmed Townies.
As the Firedemon bandwagon continued to gain steam, he pivoted to attacking Danny while still maintaining a light attack on Easy.
I came here to lynch you when I saw Dach's post, you convinced me not to lynch you, and then you convinced me to lynch you again.
Lynch Danny
I'm weary of Easy's wall of death. I've seen him do it as Mafia, I've seen him do it as town. Good points as usual, but not to the point of putting him above suspicion.
And then, last page, he pivoted to more directly attacking me. Not once in all these pages has contributed to the cause of murdering Firedemon. If Firedemon is scum, I would be
very suspicious of Anatron. I also have some minor support for Shizno being scum if Anatronman is scum. Namely, before the Firedemon bandwagon properly got under way, Anatronman expressed a desire to lynch somebody that wasn't among the active voices at the time (e.g. not me, Andy, or Shizno).
I don't feel confident lynching between the voices I'm hearing. There are a lot more players in this game than Walrus. Would be nice to hear from them before we do anything stupid.
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Final Remarks: Personally, I was interested in seeing one of these three die today because I had a pet theory related to them as a group of scum buddies. If you all end up deciding on lynching me or somebody else not in my suspect group, that's fine. What I would suggest going forward is to mainly be more wary of Shizno and Anatronman. Firedemon is not quite as good of a lynch target as those two IMO but, if Firedemon does pop scum later, I would be more suspicious of Shizno and I would especially be more suspicious of Anatronman.
Hope that's helpful. Good luck, town.
- W., world's greatest Mayor.
