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Right Honorable Justice
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So, Fallout 4 is half off right now. Worth getting? Haven't heard all that much about it since the initial hype, a year ago.
 

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Right Honorable Justice
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Pretty sure I have all the Fallout games, but I've never actually played any of them.
 

Requiem

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They're my favorite games. You'll appreciate 3 and NV more if you play them first however. Fallout 4 has some quality of life changes that make it hard to go back to the previous two, so I would suggest playing them first since they're still perfectly fine games. The DLC is also great for both games, as far as DLC goes in general.

If you wanna know about fallout 4 specifically though, it's a good game. It's not everyone hyped it up to be, but it does everything the last games did, while also adding in a Minecraft style building aspect to the game. You never actually have to do any of the building stuff though, save for a few objectives here and there in quests which aren't that troubling. The game play is great, voice acting is a nice change of pace for the main character, the world is interesting and fun, plus if you get it on console, you gave access to mods on there which is a first for console gaming. Its DLC is much weaker compared to the previous entries, but still interesting. I bought the season pass when it was 20 bucks, so it didn't really make me angry, but spending the money you would to get all of the DLC now would probably piss you off, so keep that in mind. Still worth it, but it's a headache and low on compelling story.

If you like skyrim or other open world games where you just make a character and go, you'll enjoy the fallout series. If you like shooting and retro futuristic themes and settings, you'll like fallout. Just depends on what your preferences are. And, just like any Bethesda game, bugs will happen. It's not so bad though, so that's good. I've had more bugs while playing with mods on my Xbox than I ever did when playing just the vanilla base game. The game also never crashed before I modded it, so that's saying something about the quality of the game's design. Usually vanilla Bethesda games crash at least a handful of times, but fallout 4 is pretty smooth. You most likely won't have any trouble with 3 and New Vegas either, but they are older and a little less polished. Note on NV, it was developed by Obsidian and they're known for bugs themselves, but they make a damn good fallout game, believe me. NV is almost better than 3, but that's a point of debate for later.

Anyways, enjoy the games if you do buy/play them eventually. And do get then on sale if possible.
 

Salsy

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I hated all of Fallout 3. Thought it was shit. Heard the rest were more of that so I stayed away.
 

Ibix

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Fallout 3 was okay when I played it, then just kinda ended. Really stupidly at that. I'd probably actively dislike it since that was several years ago. New Vegas was such a massive leap up in terms of story and theme. Probably the best game Bethesda didn't make. With Fallout 4 I just couldn't get into it. Didn't enjoy the changed dialog and lack of skill points.
 

Requiem

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I agree about fallout 3's story. It shouldn't take DLC to finish a story, but at least they added in a decent ending to the story and a lot of extra content with it to boot.

As for Fallout 4, the changes weren't really all that major to me. I actually welcomed the perk system change, honestly. In 3, I knew exactly what my SPECIAL stats needed to be, which bobbleheads to rush, what my skill points needed to be at to do a specific thing like hacking certain terminals or picking certain locks. It was incredibly fun and I love being able to be a jack of all trades character, which 3 does beautifully. That said, 4 is more geared to you creating specific characters, ones that are focused on one thing. You can certainly try to spread your perks around if you like and make a character that can do everything, but it's not as rewarding as focusing on one kind of character. It helps with replayability, I find. That's something I can get behind. Plus it keeps the experience different enough that I don't feel like I'm just playing more fallout 3, which is good. It's its own game and I can appreciate that.

As for the dialogue change, I'm indifferent to it. You can do more with purely text based main characters, but voiced characters, especially in massive open world games, have a charm to them that most characters don't. It's not that jarring of a change to me personally. It feeds into the idea that 4 is its own game rather than being a rehash of 3.
 

Vance Landow

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I made this mistake of playing New Vegas before 3, and the only way I can describe Fallout 3 is "fucking ass". Awful, at least when compared to one of my absolute favorite games, New Vegas. Fallout 4 was disappointing but a major improvement over 3 in every way except the voiced protagonist.
 

Jeroth

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The only Fallout game that I really played was Fallout 3. The story was cool in a personal way with finding your dad, Liam Neeson, but then it felt kind of shitty afterwards.

The setting is the only reason that I was a particular fan of it. Then again, I disliked Oblivion and never cared for Skyrim.
 

Requiem

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I like the elder scrolls in concept, but I'm not usually a fan of high fantasy stuff, I play them from time to time, but if you give me a game that plays like them while also being set in modern times, I'll love it to pieces. Though I'm a massive fan of Dragon Age, so make sense of that. Probably because it spins the usual narrative on its head from the base Tolkien style universe (Dwarves are alive, but smart and don't try to fuck around with things they don't understand, elves are fuckboys who got absolutely pile drived by humans, and the humans themselves aren't honorable heroes, at least not as a whole).

I made this mistake of playing New Vegas before 3, and the only way I can describe Fallout 3 is "fucking ass". Awful, at least when compared to one of my absolute favorite games, New Vegas. Fallout 4 was disappointing but a major improvement over 3 in every way except the voiced protagonist.
Yeah, I played the games in order, so 3 before NV. The two aren't so different that you can't play them out of order, but it's best to do them in order. Obsidian is just a good game maker. They kinda fuck around and mess up, but that's why their games are generally considered flawed, but good, never enough to be seen as truly AAA by most people. Fallout 3 was the start of my love of fallout and I'd have played 1 and 2 by now if they didn't run like shit on newer computers. Practically unplayable which is a shame. I own both of them after all.

As for 4 being disappointing, I can agree with that. NV had such a great story and even 3 to an extent had an endearing, interesting story that was compelling. 4, while not having a bad story, doesn't have a good story. It tries some interesting things, but it doesn't really give you a good pay off at the end. I wish they had gone the extra mile with the endings at least (give us a perfect, good ending where you can make peace happen rather than forcing you to pick a side in every ending). Overall, you play Fallout 4 for the experience of roaming an open world, scavenging equipment, slowly and steadily becoming stronger, as well as building up or joining whatever faction you agree with the most. The DLC is also interesting, but not as much as it could have been. They had so many chances to make the game even better, but I think Bethesda just got stuck on autopilot mode that they didn't see the obvious flaws they could have at least fixed with DLC if not entirely before release. It's a shame, especially considering they had years to get it right. It's not bad, it's just not as great as it could have been.
 

Firedemon

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I would, but my computer is a potato. It makes me very sad.

I checked minimum specs, I'm actually below them. I'm trying to decide if I want to spend the money and attempt to run it anyways, then inevitably sit on (or maybe refund) the game until I upgrade my computer.

But it looks so good.
 

AndyM03

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I wonder if their minimum specs takes into account that you can just play the game in Strategic mode? It even let's you launch straight into that.
That being said, the Strategic mode in this game is beeeeeeeautiful. Current plan is to use that on my Surface Pro 4, haven't tested it yet. Great on my desktop though.
 

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Right Honorable Justice
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Civ VI is like EUIV for casua-

Sorry. Reflex.
 

Chickenspleen

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I'm watching Metropolis on Netflix right now. I've got to say, it really holds up to the hype. The plot's a little one-dimensional, but it really is a beautiful movie.
 
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