Ended Jeroth's Overwatch Mafia [ Town Victory!]

Requiem

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At this point I'm fascinated with all of the information we're getting and solving the puzzle that Jeroth made out of this game. That's super cool and a lot of fun.

Sadly, all I have to help out on that front is that I shot Andy. I don't have much more info than that.

That also isn't me trying to assuage any fears of me being scum, I just really like the puzzle side of things a lot.
 

Easy

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Oh, shit: damage mitigation.

My partially-enhanced damage could be the explanation for the ugly-ass number of deeps Andy took, but A) I didn't attack Andy, and B) that would still require the rest of it to be a somewhat strange, albeit well-rounded, number.

Bus driving? Guess it's up to Req to fess up on whether he ever got that damage I sent him or not, but that would still beg the question of how Tirin's results ended up the way they did (although a redirect wouldn't necessarily affect that kind of ability, if game flavor is applied to the mechanics of it).

Zenyatta orb? Odd coincidence, 140's still something of an awkward number without it, and every single person remaining in this game has fessed up to some ability that would preclude them playing that particular character.

@Anatronman may have the answer. He never claimed to block damage altogether; just to mitigate it. So I wanna know who (and if) he blanketed this time; hopefully that'll save us the trouble of having to figure out who's straight-up lying, and allow us some way to just rationalize it all away instead.
 

Requiem

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This is the first time you've asked me if I got attacked unless I'm crazy.

Yeah, I got damaged.
 

Easy

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Was it a weird number?
 

Easy

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...well, thanks for that.

FoS Req a lot.

Tirin, you wanna offer any insight as to who else targeted him last night?
 

Tirin

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Anatron.

So... I'm banking on either Anatron has been playing us this whole time, or Req is scum. Lynch Req.
 

Dunsparce

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Oh yeah, it's also possible that the mafia targeted me and missed. I have the ability to dodge attacks made directly against me, and that's not even the OP part.

My attempt to prove my alignment to Tirin kinda fell flat on its face, but it seem's he and everyone else are relatively convinced of my towniness at this point. Anatron is most definitely town 'cause there's no way he'd be able to come up with all this convoluted bullshit and not be called out on it. Tirin and Easy are still potentially scum, and I'm wary of them since they're renowned as the best mafia players, but I consider them both most likely town for now.

So it come down to Andy, Requiem and Firedemon.

The Case Against Andy:
I've been suspicious of him the entire game. He started the train of meta arguments Day 1 by having a meltdown against Tirin for bad manors. Day 2, he tried to get me lynched in a way that would clear Coolpool. His play during the day strikes me as anti-town, however, what we've been piecing together about what's happened at night doesn't seem to fit with him being mafia.

The Case Against Requiem:
My opinion of him has shifted many times in this game, though he's been pretty consistently high on a lot of other people's shit lists. The first red flag for me was when he decided to lynch me. He appeared pretty reluctant to do it at first (possibly feigned, because he knew I'd flip town), but immediately after, I stated that my role can guarantee a town victory, and rather than unlynch me like you'd expect if he were as reluctant as he'd seemed, he kept his lynch on me until the whole town turned against him. It would also seem that he attacked Andy for a lot of damage, which you'd expect the mafia to be able to do. However, the fact that he attacked Andy, someone he could easily push a lynch on for scummy behavior, leads me to think it's more likely he's town attacking scum. Then again, I'm not sure too many people besides me think Andy could be scum.

The Case Against Firedemon:
He's contributed very little, so he's hard to get a read on. If Andy and Req both flip town, lynching FD is probably out best bet. Interestingly, he actually roleclaimed a bit. He said he can deal 75 damage a night, and protect himself. He also claimed to attack Tirin Night 1, which suggests that, if he has any other abilities, they aren't worth a damn. I'm interested in what he did last night, if anything.

Now that I have all my thoughts laid out, I'm feeling we should Lynch Requiem

And god damn you guys getting shots in at each other while I'm trying to write this big ass post.
 

AndyM03

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The Case Against Andy:
I've been suspicious of him the entire game.
1. He started the train of meta arguments Day 1 by having a meltdown against Tirin for bad manors.
2. Day 2, he tried to get me lynched in a way that would clear Coolpool.
His play during the day strikes me as anti-town, however, what we've been piecing together about what's happened at night doesn't seem to fit with him being mafia.
1. Started is a delightful word. Glad that's how you see it.
2. You have a great way of exaggerating things, just like how I called you out the other day on misquoting me (which you failed to prove otherwise). I pointed out what I felt was a connection between you and Coolpool. I felt it was more of a one way thing (You projecting yourself onto Coolpool), since, well, Coolpool didn't do much this game. I made no claim that you being town would clear Coolpool. I was hoping for a scum double kill. Could still be on the table.

If you mean my play this day, Haven't said too much haha. Kicked things off by revealing the odd amount of damage I took, and was up front about attacking a largely considered townie, (though not guaranteed, but... idk I believe Easy is Zarya now at least).

Can someone run me through why Req is the best lynch for today sorry? Not that I disagree with the course of action.
So he wanted to lynch Coolpool yesterday, after Coolpool just gave up. Fair call. Not really intense scum hunting though, which is why I personally didn't feel off about him switching lynch targets. Easy I believe had some more reasons for the Coolpool lynch, and thus felt bad vibes quickly when Req changed course.
He switched targets to Dunsparce after the lynching Coolpool squad was down to just him and Easy.

Are we maintaining the same arguments as yesterday? Does Coolpool being scum change anything? I'm all for lynching Req, but I was hoping he'd be a bit more motivated to defend himself after yesterdays apology. Is it the explanation i'm asking for what you're looking for Req, so you have something to defend against? Otherwise, I'm reading anti town vibes from those short responses.
 

Tirin

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1) Req attacked you last night for (apparently) massive damage, and is the only person who could have realistically done so barring Firedemon.
2) Either Req lied about being attacked the damage he took last night, or Anatron is scum (the former being far more likely). Town has no reason to lie about being damaged.

Between that and Anatron being near-confirmed, I think it's pretty fair to say "Req is scum", and hence my lynch.
 

AndyM03

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1) Req attacked you last night for (apparently) massive damage, and is the only person who could have realistically done so barring Firedemon.
2) Either Req lied about being attacked the damage he took last night, or Anatron is scum (the former being far more likely). Town has no reason to lie about being damaged.

Between that and Anatron being near-confirmed, I think it's pretty fair to say "Req is scum", and hence my lynch.
Ooohkay shit sorry that makes a bit more sense now.
Well, for all intents and purposes, i'm on board. May as well wait for @Anatronman .
 

Anatronman

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Bus driver shenanigans. I hit FD with my hitting stick for 100 to see if I could get some ult charge and so we could have this fun conversation about numbers.
 

Anatronman

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Hmm. Someone who thought I would have been protecting people redirected me to Req.

Lynch Req

Interesting.
 

AndyM03

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Do we wait for FD or should I just hammer Req?
Feel like we'll be good if I just hammer him.
 

Easy

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Are we doing this thing or do I get a reach around before getting lynched?
Sooner would probably be better than later if you're gonna put in an effort, mate.
Hmm. Someone who thought I would have been protecting people redirected me to Req.

Lynch Req

Interesting.
Guess I was redirected to Andy if that's the case. Tirin didn't read me as targeting Req, which I absolutely did. For a weird amount of damage; not no regular-ass 65.
 

Anatronman

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While this Day is still live, I'll mention that I mitigate damage completely, not partially.
 
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