Ended Shadow's Train Simulator Bitch Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)
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*shrug* I kinda tried to get FD killed yesterday instead of TC. Neither of them feel/felt like scum to me, but someone needed to die and TC was the most likely, so I went with him, but I still sorta targeted FD to an extent.
Honestly though, the people I'm suspicious of are the ones who aren't talking much, but that's not really enough evidence to make anything happen. I'm almost wanting to start pulling on the "Req and FD are scum" thread just to see if something comes out of it and I'm scum in that scenario, lol. No one's really pointing out anything, so, yeah, I guess that's my contribution? Maybe? :|
Honestly I would say it is just the situation has very little to go with in regard to people acting scumming, i feel as though the whole Tolvan situation added to deescalate of several peoples possible examples of aggression. Also I understand the whole suspension of quiet players, you never know if the people who occasional do one big post have everything going for them as scum. I'd say with that maybe the FoS should be pointing at me and Salsy if we are going at that angle.
Sorry - been entertaining guests for the past few days. Tonight was a drinking night.
As far as the situation goes, it's a tough one. We're playing in a game with no power roles. There are seven players with two mafia among them. We've lost two of us. The game is pretty much over after this day unless we hit a mafia member.
Day 2: Lynch, 6 players.
Night 2: Kill, 5 players.
Day 3: Lynch, 4 players. - Game Over.
This is a mislynch or lose situation. I know that I'm being repetitive, but having the numbers in a post opposed to just "saying" it is nicer.
Currently, the players are: @Firedemon , @Requiem , @Jeroth , @Tolvan , @Salsy , @Ibix and @Tag_Ross
@Firedemon is a town since he's willing to paint himself as suspicious as seen in his post about "No, I wouldn't have necessarily killed you." If he were to cling to Tolvan as a supporter, it would be much more obvious.
@Requiem was surprisingly chatty on the first day and has dropped off, but I understand. The first day is to generate chatter and find inconsistencies later on.
@Jeroth is a town. I know, I've seen his PM.
@Tolvan is a town or a convincing mafia member. He's absent-minded and as Salsy mentioned the Village Idiot.
@Salsy is an absolute wild card. I don't know if he's town or scum, but he's clever and neutral in his posts. There's no bias and no targeting - just facts.
@Ibix - I'm unsure about. Mostly quiet during Day 1 until I poked him and even then it was observational.
@Tag_Ross is currently suspicious, but that's because he's the only one being aggressive.
This game is incredibly difficult due to the lack of power roles for town. They add an extra element to the game, so it's sad to see them missing.
My only guesses at the moment would be:
Tag_Ross for the aggression.
Req for Tag_Ross' theory.
I genuinely have no idea on who is scum right now.
Tag I'd give a very, very minor suspicion to for what was, in my opinion, a very convoluted theory. Again, very, very minor. He even said himself he didn't believe it. I really wouldn't call Tag aggressive. Jeroth and Ibix I'd give suspicion to for being a bit quiet, much more so Ibix. I'd put some suspicion on myself, Salsy, Req, Jeroth, and Ibix for all being on the TC bandwagon, as we can pretty much assume one or both mafia would be on that bandwagon, since the mafia has no reason not to help the town mislynch. Extra suspicion on Ibix for hammering with little given reason, though I do find it fairly, perhaps completely, acceptable given the quickly approaching deadline. The way I see it Ibix is the most suspicious, but he's at like, 2 out of 10 suspicion compared to everyone else's 1 or 0 in my book, which, after day 1 I don't quite call enough for a lynch vote.
Ah fuck it, let's make something happen. Lynch Ibix
I may make a post or two in the morning, but I should be completely gone tomorrow until Wednesday. So, keep that in mind if you want my input on things or notice my mysterious disappearance.
Actually, crap, should I be putting up a weakly based lynch right before leaving for 24 hours? You guys have a habit of escalating shit, like that one time I got TC random lynched in less than a day. Ah that was beautiful. Uh... Fuck it, don't hammer him if you guys decide to go nuts with this.
Also, how did you see Jeroth's PM? Cheater.
Ah fuck it, let's make something happen. Lynch Ibix
I may make a post or two in the morning, but I should be completely gone tomorrow until Wednesday. So, keep that in mind if you want my input on things or notice my mysterious disappearance.
Actually, crap, should I be putting up a weakly based lynch right before leaving for 24 hours? You guys have a habit of escalating shit, like that one time I got TC random lynched in less than a day. Ah that was beautiful. Uh... Fuck it, don't hammer him if you guys decide to go nuts with this.
Also, how did you see Jeroth's PM? Cheater.
That's just what a mafia member would say!
Shh... Don't tell anyone. I'm psychic.
As far as the suspicion on me, that's understandable. Right now, Firedemon is making valid points and I was already suspicious of Ibix. I don't have any other leads, so for now, I'm going to follow him.
Lynch Ibix.
Lynch Count:
Ibix (2) - Firedemon, Jeroth
Undecided - Tolvan, Salsy, Requiem, Ibix, Tag Ross
Majority is 4.
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Current Deadline : Wednesday, March 18th ~6:30 PM PST
There are approximately 24 hours left before the deadline. If a majority is not reached by that time, a no-lynch will occur.
While I am open to extending the deadline, under no circumstances should anyone assume that an extension will be granted.
Ibix (2) - Firedemon, Jeroth
Undecided - Tolvan, Salsy, Requiem, Ibix, Tag Ross
Majority is 4.
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Current Deadline : Wednesday, March 18th ~6:30 PM PST
There are approximately 24 hours left before the deadline. If a majority is not reached by that time, a no-lynch will occur.
While I am open to extending the deadline, under no circumstances should anyone assume that an extension will be granted.
Lynch Tag
Why bring up something you don't believe? Why speculate so much on something you don't stand behind or wish to have analyzed? Because if we cut that part of your post out, all you wrote is a defense on why you weren't the one to kill White.
I really hope you're not pulling the joking admission of being Mafia "in your face" postgame-play right now. Because up to now, I've been cool with everything you've said. On that note, who are you suspicious of?
Why are you giving Tag's theory credence, when he's your highest suspicion? Furthermore, why are placing Req as a higher priority than Ibix and myself based on what you wrote?
I agree that Tag wasn't being aggressive (in the sense than everything he said literally meant nothing). Although, I do not agree with playing any assumption game. The mafia has just as much reason to not be on a lynch as to be on it. Avoid suspicion vs kill faster. There's no reason to not look at everyone. Especially when they're talking yet not saying anything.
Tomorrow is Wednesday, which is also the deadline. I hope you mean you're back before then.
As far as Req goes, I'm suspicious due to a mix of intuition and the inconsistency of his posts.
I'm giving Tag's theory credence due to the fact that I'm not perfect. In a game without power roles, I'm skeptical of everyone and everything and the lack of confirmation doesn't help.
As I stated before, I genuinely have no idea who the mafia could be except for anyone except me.
Yeah pretty much, I had nothing to go on so I kept the stupid theory I was gonna post earlier (when it was almost relevant) but nothing really happened this day and I had hoped it would have started some conversation.
Also, I didn't see your Lynch against me until I quoted you, but it doesn't change my next opinion.
While I do believe we can assume there are two mafia, I don't believe we can completely write off the possibility of a lone mafia, especially if you're going to calculate that we have to Lynch scum right now or we lose (with 2 mafia we can mislynch once without losing the game, but we can narrow the pick down if we nolynch twice, which I'm not recommending yet)
The only way you can be absolutely sure of their numbers is if you're a part if them.
I disagree with your reason for believing he's townie, it's a common enough tactic and it doesn't try to disprove that he's not scum.
Dripping activity when the weekend is over could be a sign of too many things for it to matter.
I've seen my PM too, I'm a train, seeing as you're not I might be able to assume you're not on my team.
Not the village idiot, just inexperienced, which shouldn't clear him of suspicion, as long as there rightful reason to be suspected.
If this wasn't a vanilla game I'd think he was a third party of some sort.
That's... Just Ibix. He really ought to speak up more in these things.
if you call that aggressive you've never seen me play as scum where I know exactly who to kill.
Don't rely on power roles, dependence is one of the reasons we've been playing more vanillaish games, you got to go with your gut, unless you're scum then you have to outwit everyone.
Don't do that, I literally said it was a terrible theory, the only reason you should consider it is if it's the last possinle day, one was already proven scum and the other is still alive, and even then it's still not a good thing to base your suspicion on.
For someone who believes this is a Mylo you had no problem lynching someone who wasn't your most suspect, he did however have someone targeting him(with multiple less than stellar reasons, only one of which doesn't also apply to you) as well as a Lynch counted against him.
So to sum it all up:
Lynch Jeroth
Nah, I think that fad ended a while back. It wouldn't be as fun to do in this game anyway. Without roles or a higher number of players and with a decreased amount of discussion, doing the whole post game role reveal during the game thing just loses its luster. Plus, I think Shadow wouldn't appreciate people pulling that move again since he seems to want a straight, by-the-books game.
As for who I'm suspicious of, Tag and Jeroth come to mind the most. I play an intuition game mostly, so that's the majority of my argument. I was originally suspicious of Whitetiger, but then he got killed. I don't know if I think both Tag and Jeroth are scum, but I do believe at least one of them is. If there's two scum, I think I might consider Tolvan to be scum as well, but I'm far less confident on that point and wouldn't even consider a FoS until the next day phase at the earliest. I say this mainly because as the game goes by, the less Tolvan's new player status protects him. I just don't really get the same "town" feeling about him as I do other people.
But anyways, specifically for Tag and Jeroth, I'm suspicious of them just because of their posts. Tag seems to be stirring stuff up with that "theory" of his and he's now backpedaling and saying it's absolutely ludicrous. If you really think that of a theory you're proposing, don't propose it, sit on it and develop it more. Since he didn't do that, it just feels off.
Jeroth I'm suspicious of because he's using Tag's theory. I get that it's possibly just something to latch onto because we really don't have much at all to go off of, but even still, as silly as Tag's backpedaling over the theory is, he does admit that he thinks it's not worth our time, so Jeroth using the theory as a basis for his suspicions marks me as odd. There's also the fact that he believes my posts seem inconsistent.
I'm not sure what's inconsistent about them. Am I not posting as frequently as I was before and that's the inconsistency? Or is there some element of my posts from day 1 that isn't present in day 2? I don't really know myself, so we'd need Jeroth to explain that one. As it stands, the point is sort of just hanging in the air.
That all said, my suspicions could change over time. At last Tag and Jeroth are talking, that's a plus. Usually the talkative ones have roles, but in a game like this one, we can't use that all that much. But anyways, I'm really just rambling for the sake of it and for the sake of adding something to the game. Hopefully people can use this one way or another.
The way it is looking to me Jeroth is is attempting to be more leaning against Tag and Requiem, in my opinion both people whom have tended to the discussion well, even if say Tag's theories hold no weight, he is pulling out his gut feels at the time. I'd say he has at least done more than I have in that way. I feel the best option from this point would be to Lynch Jeroth. I'd like to FoS Firedemon also since his choice between me and Jeroth seem based on so little, when this isn't as much about the gut on day 2, even if gut feelings helped pull discussion along before those were even denounced by the person putting it out of their ass after the fact.
Also it is funny that I post without having much to say or go on like everybody else, then get jumped on for not posting anything much to say or following the zero leads we might've had going on.
Also it is funny that I post without having much to say or go on like everybody else, then get jumped on for not posting anything much to say or following the zero leads we might've had going on.
I still feel like Jeroth is suspicious... I still don't really know, though. Tag seems kinda suspicious too.
Before this, I've mostly played Mafia IRL, and I get too used to reading people rather than their actions. Based on that, Req has the most suspicious profile picture.
Before this, I've mostly played Mafia IRL, and I get too used to reading people rather than their actions. Based on that, Req has the most suspicious profile picture.
Or play mafia ever? 1 mafia to 8 villagers is a terrible balance. 2 Mafia to 7 villagers is the obvious choice.
Completely valid. Ibix quickly followed after you and Req.
Currently from your post, you're only reasons for lynching me are:
(1) I think there are two mafia members.
(2) You disagree with my opinions on everyone else.
(3) I used your theory along with my gut feeling.
Lynch Tag_Ross
If I die, so be it. It'll be a huge mistake for everyone.
The reason that I said they were inconsistent is that you were incredibly chatty at the start of day 1 and dropped off in day 2.
Yes we can assume there are two scum, there most likely are, but we can't deny the small possibility of there only being one, I feel like it's possible he knows there are two scum which means he's one of them.
PS I'm still at work for the next five hours, so don't expect a lengthy reply from me until just before the deadline would end.
PS I'm still at work for the next five hours, so don't expect a lengthy reply from me until just before the deadline would end.
That seems like a silly leap in logic to make. I'm pretty sure there's two scum, but I don't know if that's true for a fact. I brought up a pretty simple and legitimate reason for why there is probably two scum as opposed to just one and that doesn't have much to do with whether or not I'm scum. The same sentiment applies to Jeroth, I would assume. It's really not hard to guess that there might be two scum, so using that as a basis for saying that the only way you could know that fact is by being one of the scum players just strikes me as being silly. Like, why is this even a thought you're having?
With the desire to move the game along, lynch Tag.
With the desire to move the game along, lynch Tag.