Ended Shadow's Train Simulator Bitch Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

Tag_Ross

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I'm on my last 10 min break so I'll make this quick.

Seeing as you only need one more to hammer and I'm still alive I'm going to assume at least one of the purple on the tag Lynch is mafia, this isn't really helpful to me(right now), but it will help whoever survives to the next day.

I'm assuming he's scum because of his "assumption" that this is the most meaningful day because of there being two scum, but the only way he could absolutely know that is if he was scum himself, hence my Lynch.

Anyways, breaks over now, see you guys in a couple more hours.
 

Ibix

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I'm going to say I'm not moving target this day, before somebody (Firedemon or Tolvan) jump on the tag lynch remember that these are based on how he worded his post in regard to the number of mafia and for posting what amounts to nothing when there was really nothing that could be said besides 'I'm not your guy maybe these guys are'.. That is unless I'm missing some other reasoning that i missed or skimmed past.
 

Jeroth

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I'm assuming he's scum because of his "assumption" that this is the most meaningful day because of there being two scum, but the only way he could absolutely know that is if he was scum himself, hence my Lynch.
Anyone that can do math can figure out that it's important.

how he worded his post in regard to the number of mafia and for posting what amounts to nothing when there was really nothing that could be said besides 'I'm not your guy maybe these guys are'..
You asked me for my opinion and I gave you my opinion. At the end of my opinion, I stated my views on everyone and told them that I had no idea who it could be.

As far as wording in my post, I've hosted mafia games before. It's safe to assume that there's two mafia. That's the typical layout.
 

Jeroth

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Sorry to double post, but I feel the need to mention. This will probably be my last post on the topic. I'm going to be working when the day ends and I won't be done work until 10:30.
 

Ibix

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Maybe I worded that poorly but I was talking in regards to people ragging on Tag for the mafia numbers and his theory which he denounced and stating I don't know what else is supposed to be leading people into lynching him. I'm open to hear it if I'm just blind, but the way I see it he ain't our guy.
 

Firedemon

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Tomorrow is Wednesday, which is also the deadline. I hope you mean you're back before then.
I meant tomorrow as in Tuesday, as that post was from late at night before I had actually attempted the act known as sleep. So yes, I am back before the deadline. Yay, imprecise language.

Why bring up something you don't believe? Why speculate so much on something you don't stand behind or wish to have analyzed? Because if we cut that part of your post out, all you wrote is a defense on why you weren't the one to kill White.
I think the remainder of his post was meant to be an admission of "Yeah, I was okay with killing him if you want to think that means I tried to kill him", because his following post stated he didn't want to ignore it in the event someone tried to pull it on him. Even after my post disagreeing with the logic of that hypothetical attack, I would still agree to that being okay, because someone could conceivably still try to pull that. That said, the crazy theory is... I didn't attack the act of posting it very much, I think it was too convoluted and he was too open about his absolute minimal belief of it for him to actually have any ill intentions with it. That said, you do raise a good point of, why did you even post it? I can't see him meaning to mislead with that, which is why I didn't heavily attack him for it, but I can't see why he would bother with it? Even if it were to drum up discussion, feel that was unnecessary at the time he posted it.

I'm not really opposed to a Tag lynch, but I'm not really in favor of it. I'm neutral on this, as I really don't find him that suspicious or that innocent.

I agree that Tag wasn't being aggressive (in the sense than everything he said literally meant nothing). Although, I do not agree with playing any assumption game. The mafia has just as much reason to not be on a lynch as to be on it. Avoid suspicion vs kill faster. There's no reason to not look at everyone. Especially when they're talking yet not saying anything.
Fair enough, I do see how this is a valid trade off for the mafia that some might make. However, I also think that, if the mafia is less experienced or less cunning/thoughtful/what-have-you, they could very easily go for a quick kill, or believe they're being less suspicious. Though you are certainly right, we should look at everyone.

The way it is looking to me Jeroth is is attempting to be more leaning against Tag and Requiem, in my opinion both people whom have tended to the discussion well, even if say Tag's theories hold no weight, he is pulling out his gut feels at the time. I'd say he has at least done more than I have in that way. I feel the best option from this point would be to Lynch Jeroth. I'd like to FoS Firedemon also since his choice between me and Jeroth seem based on so little, when this isn't as much about the gut on day 2, even if gut feelings helped pull discussion along before those were even denounced by the person putting it out of their ass after the fact.

Also it is funny that I post without having much to say or go on like everybody else, then get jumped on for not posting anything much to say or following the zero leads we might've had going on.
I'm not entirely opposed to a Jeroth lynch, for the minor suspicion reasons given before, and for minor suspicion of actually giving Tag's theory some support, which I apparently missed when reading his post. I based my suspicion of you on very little, yes, I even admitted that, and admitted that I don't generally think that's an adequate thing to go off after day 1, but I did explain the difference in suspicion levels and say I was only putting forth that vote to make something happen. As for what and how much you were saying, some of the other quiet people had been posting bits of substance, you had posted less in quantity and less of substance, so you stand out more.

I don't like Tag's logic of, he insists there are two mafia therefore he must be one of them. That's pretty flimsy logic to be actually attacking him with. Little suspicious, perhaps just desperate.

Also, on Tag's suggestion of Jeroth being quick to lynch someone who wasn't the top of his list despite saying we're at mylo, we're not in a situation where we lose if we mislynch (Which is mylo, correct? This isn't a slightly different situation, right?). That's tomorrow, like Jeroth showed with the numbers. I presume he meant that the following day would be mylo, as he did actually show the numbers clearly indicating that today is not mylo. So, he's not lynching someone who isn't his prime suspect during mylo, because it isn't mylo.

As I've gone through this, I've raised my suspicion level of Tag from where it was at the beginning of this post.

We have about four hours left. For the sake of avoiding a no lynch and moving the game forward, I will hammer Tag if nothing significantly changes in that time. In the mean time, unlynch Ibix in preparation.
 

Firedemon

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About two hours to go. I understand that Tag may not be present in this time span, along with a few others. I'm going to lynch with as little time left as possible to give as much time as possible to persuade me otherwise.
 

Tag_Ross

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With the assumption that there are two scum, today is not Mylo. If we mislynch today tomorrow is lylo, but if we nolynch, or fail a Lynch today tomorrow will be Mylo, and if it comes to that we should nolynch to narrow it down.
 

Firedemon

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Two no lynches in a row is fundamentally a bad idea. By doing so we put ourselves in the same end result of lylo with the same numbers, but the mafia picked both deaths rather than the town picking one of the two.
 

Tag_Ross

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I'm not recommending two nolynches in a row, I'm recommending a nolynch if we fail to Lynch today, yes it will put us at lylo if we do, and scum will kill off two townies, but that will narrow our choices, increasing our odds of killing scum while decreasing our odds of losing the game. The reason I'm bringing this up today instead of a tomorrow where we failed to Lynch today is because of the possibility that I'll die during the night.

Anyways, we have about forty minutes before the day ends, so if anyone has anything to add, do it now.
 

Firedemon

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I'm not recommending two nolynches in a row, I'm recommending a nolynch if we fail to Lynch today, yes it will put us at lylo if we do, and scum will kill off two townies, but that will narrow our choices, increasing our odds of killing scum while decreasing our odds of losing the game. The reason I'm bringing this up today instead of a tomorrow where we failed to Lynch today is because of the possibility that I'll die during the night.
Ah, okay. It sounded like you were actually suggesting we intentionally skip two lynches.

Also, uh... 30 minutes.
 

Shadow

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Lynch Count:

Tag Ross (4) - Salsy, Jeroth, Requiem, Firedemon
Jeroth (2) - Tag Ross, Ibix

Undecided - Tolvan

Majority is 4.

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Tag Ross has been lynched. He was...


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You are Rusty

Alignment – Town
Win Condition – You win when all threats to the town are eliminated

NIGHT 2 START

Current Deadline: Friday, March 20th ~6:30PM PST
 

Shadow

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Night 2 Results:

Tolvan has been derailed. He was...


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You are Rheneas

Alignment – Town
Win Condition – You win when all threats to the town are eliminated
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DAY 3 START

Current Deadline: Monday, March 23rd ~7:00PM PST
 

Salsy

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Drinking and marathoning all 7 Saw movies. Only have phone where I for internet atm. Won't be much active until Sunday. I'll try to pop in when I can though.
 

Salsy

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where I am*
 
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