Tolvan to me is looking more and more like a VI than anything else. Plus:Why TC? When he plays, he usually plays well. I'm not inclined to save "power players" any more than the first full day/night phase, but if I were going to pick someone I personally think we should hold until day 2, it'd be TC. He's a smart player when he puts his head into a game. I don't want to kill Tolvan just for trying to start That Discussion™, but if not him, then who? TC doesn't strike me as a reasonable pick, but I'm basing this stance on my personal experience with him in mafia.
Leads me to believe that he has next to no experience with this game and would like to learn. His comments are naive. His comments are lighthearted. His comments are inexperienced. And killing him for being new to this is not something I can stand behind, as he'll never learn otherwise. I'd rather not doom him to becoming Anatron v2.Sure, I'll give Mafia a try. Plz don't kill me day one.
And as the forefront advocate against the D1NL, I really believe that his statement is being blown way out of proportion. To me, this current wagon is like picking off the low hanging fruit. It's quick. It's easy. You don't have to think.
There's 9 people in this game. 5 hammers today. And we're like a page into D1 with already 3 + this:
A covert L-1 with the added benefit of getting validation for his lynch. He tried to be reasonable. He tried to slow down the train (hehehe). It's manipulative in the sense that, as town, there's no reason to be hesitant about anything you believe....
Okay, after that, I'm willing to lynch Tolvan. I'd prefer to wait it out another day or so though, just to see what else comes up. I don't like the idea of lynching too quickly Day 1.
Also, just a heads up, I'm likely not going to be posting until either very late tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
Preview Edit: I wrote the above much earlier in the day (after Req's lynch before Shadow's count) and walked away from my comp. Time to address other relevant posts since then...
Called it.Well, the ACTUAL reason I didn't day-one lynch is that I'm significantly less experienced at Mafia, and treat it a little too much as a roleplaying game.
Absolutely right. But then he talked.Pretty sure Salsy is just picking a random person to start a new discussion. Could be wrong though.