Yeah I was really confused the first time I read that one post. I had no idea what he was talking about with the role claiming as widow stuff. It'd be very weird if widowmaker was not mafia considering she is a very evil character.
I was more concerned with the idea that he thought the most probable explanation for strolling out into enemy territory with my dick swinging out and both middle fingers up was that I was very powerful and completely defenseless. Not that I'm above double-bluffing like that, don't get me wrong, and in fact I could absolutely be doing something like that right now. It just hurts my feelings a little that he went so far as to say that was the most, or even
only viable explanation. =(
Oh, right, just like in Daykill Mafia where I was so dangerous to your lynch-your-buddy strategy that you shot me dead in your first post. I suppose, at least, that had less risk involved - I'm pretty good at getting people lynched. I see you've still got that hand down your pants, though; for the children's sake, keep it out of there. All I'm seeing from you is obfuscation and impossible-to-call softclaims.
Hey now, I don't have to take that kind of talk from somebody who's so into himself, he had a fantasy about being so feared and dreaded for his scumhunting prowess that even I executed him right off the bat as scum player in Day Kill Mafia, and then started living in it. I executed Lotus right off the bat in Day Kill Mafia - my scum buddy, remember? Even in
that game, where I was willing to start off by outright sacrificing a teammate just for shits and giggles, you weren't worth the bad PR from singlehandedly being responsible for killing a Townie. But you were worth nightkilling right after that, admittedly, because at least you weren't gullible enough to believe that I actually just so happened to fire off randomly and hit scum for no particular reason.
What - a good reason to claim people should focus me? It'll get me talking (irrelevant, since I will anyway), but put pressure on me that might make me slip up if I'm scum (unlikely). If you're a tracker, you could determine who targeted me in a night if I were to die - but it probably wouldn't matter. I suspect that, given the nature of this game, plenty of people have damaging abilities to throw out, both scum and town.
Hm. Alright. See, I didn't ask that obnoxious ass question to smugly posture at my superiority. I was actually wondering if you were still so fixated over a one-sentence throwaway line - made as part of a bit which I've explicitly acknowledged was just a way of stirring up shit with almost no prior information or context to work with - because you were so self-absorbed as to not see how anything directed at you could possibly lack greater meaning beyond the obvious implications, or because you were feeling paranoid about the possibility of getting randomly gypped out of an otherwise perfectly clean deception.
The right answer was the obvious one: when trying to turn up the heat in a game of Mafia, look to Tirin, for he has absolutely no chill at all. So I did. But I wanted to see if you had any kind of convoluted, multi-layer theory that might explain why you felt so threatened by such an obviously toothless gesture... turns out you just got super traumatized by the fact that somebody actually pointed at you. Weird.
Suspiciously weird.
Your motivation is blurry at best - as is every plan you've thrown out so far, many of which have been easy to justify retroactively, since you'd never openly state one.
Obviously. Lot of good
any Day 1 hunting plan would be if I told the Mafia all about it beforehand.
Funny how you expect me to go out of my way to analyze your motives (probably just to discredit said analysis), but have been strangely lacking in active analysis yourself.
Nah. Honestly, considering that I've been posting on my phone from work for most of it, I'm kinda impressed with how much I've been able to get in. Helps to be hyped about the role, I suppose.
Yeah, yeah, completely hype yourself up as being the world's best scumhunter. You started the day with a lynch on a townie that hasn't gone anywhere, and progressed to saying that Firedemon is probably scum because he showed up after he was pinged.
I said no such thing, on either count.
It looks to me like you're trying hard to establish reasons for town to trust you.
Duh. Team fight on me, babyyy.
Funnily enough, though, you've been more than content to completely ignore any connection I've made between you and Andy, and also haven't put your microscope up to him once throughout this game even though he's done plenty of things that could be interpreted as scummy - as myself and other players (namely Anatron) have commented on.
Even ignoring that half the argument for lynching Andy is that you think we're scumbuddies - an argument which holds no merit whatsoever because I'm Town to begin with - most of the other half was that he overreacted to some prodding, by which logic I should be favoring a lynch on you most of all. And furthermore, even if he is scum who's just been hoping to keep on my good side, we both know lynching him would get me no Townie cred at this juncture. When we start this Night phase, I gotta know if somebody's with me (optimal) or not (acceptable); anything in-between is worse than either.
Speaking of posting on phone. Gotta clean this up as I get the time, now...
Yeah, I'm totally sure that the ways that we're posting reflect not only our alignment, but also the Overwatch characters randomly selected for us. You know what he meant, come the fuck on.
They weren't randomly selected for the roles, though. Scum are Talon, which was clear from the OP and only the OP as far as a Townie was concerned.
Any guesses as to how I already knew that last part yesterday?
So I googled it and it turns out a couple non-white characters are in this group called Talon (which makes me feel less bad about this racist ass list I almost posted yesterday).
While I am a dumbass for not triple checking the OP for the one tiny line about agents of Talon (which is pretty ambiguous for someone who doesn’t know what that means), it would be fucking hard to write all that shit if I knew I was wrong from the start.
I didn't write that to call you a dumbass - though you've been madly coming at me far beyond all reason since your "I'd rather not blind lynch; let's lynch Easy just to see what happens instead" intro moment. If it hadn't been an understandable mistake (mild oversight) in a pool of understandable mistakes (furious tunnel vision), I'd have suspected it was just a hamfisted ploy instead.
I guess you’re saying you wouldn’t be playing like this unless you had a lot of health.
Oh, I absolutely would - if only because that would be the last possible thing anybody would reasonably expect. Of course, the reason it'd be the last possible thing anybody would reasonably expect is that simply telling everyone I'm busy and staying noncommittal and out of sight would be so much safer and just as effective, making the latter otherwise an objectively better choice.So nobody would ever see the former coming, right? Well, wrong, actually, and you'll end up feeling really stupid when they do - but they know you know that, so it's the wine in front of yourself after all, isn't it? Etc. You get the idea.
More importantly, there are
way more possible mechanisms of not getting killed than simply having a large health pool. I'm telling you this because it's something that, while you should've
considered on your own, any Overwatch player up in here would just know to be a factor. Most particularly if they have any non-traditional Mafia mechanics among their character abilities.
I mean, what’s the claim here? You can solo the entire enemy team with everybody’s help? Could you say that with a straight face again please?
Also, goddamn, stop pushing me for more info.
Look, from your perspective: if I'm lying, then I'll have absolutely no trouble making more shit up. Seriously. I once got the Town to accept that I was a side character with brief appearances in one episode for Firefly mafia, who had three Cop charges which each had a two-thirds chance of getting the right result. Also, the first person to try to kill me would die instead. It was total bullshit, but it fit a very specific set of evidence very perfectly. If you're not scum trying to figure out how to handle it, then what the hell are you actually trying to accomplish by trying to get me to tell you more?
EDIT (it’s fucked up how much I’m editing this game, I know): Easy you’ve been so fucking sarcastic this game I can’t even tell if you were saying exactly what you said or the exact opposite. FoS your shit.
I've actually toyed with the idea of going back and compiling quotes to clarify, since I saw this.
Fuck if I was gonna spend the amount of time it'd take for me to do that on a phone, though - not that I've had it to spend since then.
Sorry for the double post but without any role claiming or quoting PMs, does anybody but Easy have a win condition in their role PM?
To clarify: I didn't have a win condition in my role PM, and so I assumed all the other Townies didn't and that the reason was because our win condition was implicit in the OP.
I do now, and it does change things a little bit - but the lack of any specific mention of Talon still stands. Most significant change is that I no longer find it quite as unlikely there's an SK, though.
Jesus, I'm sorry everybody. Friday was hectic for me, family stuff happened, nothing serious, don't worry. Just time consuming. Then today or at least what was Saturday, I honestly forgot to check the forum at all. It's kinda why I didn't join mafia last game, I have a tendency to dip out on the forum without thinking about it.
Honestly, still showed up pretty early for our typical Day 1 acceleration rate. Not your fault we picked this particular time period to go full dive comp.
I think it's safe to call Easy's Lightning Rod Strat a failure, 'cause so far we have seven pages of fuck all. Maybe tomorrow we'll get some new info that will shed some light on the discussion of today, but right now we've go next to nothing
...so you don't have any scum reads apart from myself, I take it?
